While the daily wuhan death toll in the U. S. continues downward, the spread of the virus is said to be “spiraling out of control” (the words of MSDNC’s Katie Tur), yet the hospitals are not overloading while the daily deaths drop (after two months of riots and phased openings), so how long until the population achieves herd immunity according to luminaries such as Ms Tur, Sanjay Gupta, Vin Gupta, or Sleepy Joe Biden, do they think 25,000,000 have been infected or closer to 4x that number?